Went to Carnegie Tech in Pittsburgh to study physics, but when they landed a man on the moon, physicists were out of work so I went to law school, A last-minute change in direction. Been practicing in Arizona since 1974. Done OK in my narrow fields: first amendment (I sue people for defamation); healthcare (I represent healthcare professionals in front of their licensing boards); and employment (mostly representing employees harassed or wrongfully discharged). Married Karen in 1980 and have three daughters and three granddaughters. Love them all immensely.